The Moment I Knew: Out of the Blue, He Said He’d Never Wanted Children But Would Have a Baby With Me Carmen Pavlovic, who always desired motherhood, met Pete in Shanghai where, after a long night of conversation, he made an unexpected declaration: he would have a baby with her. This profound statement, made in Beijing, provided a sense of security that allowed their relationship to flourish despite demanding careers. Twenty-one years later, they have two children and an unwavering unity.

• Carmen Pavlovic always wanted to be a mother, while Pete did not plan on having children.
• They met professionally in 2003 and reconnected in Shanghai, leading to a significant conversation in Beijing.
• Pete declared, ‘I’ve never wanted children, but I would have a baby with you.’
• This ‘outlandish statement’ gave Carmen a sense of security, and they had their first child within 16 months.
• Twenty-one years later, they have raised two children and maintained a strong, unified relationship.